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Occupy London Economics Working Group presents Beyond Capitalism? event

 

 

 

day of discussions of what an economically just future could look like. This is a chance to explore the world we want to live in, not just what we think we can change. The day will be divided into three themed sessions with panels of speakers presenting their ideas in 10-15 minute presentations to get us started followed by open debate.

The current schedule is:

  • 11am Introduction
  • 11:15-1pm: Session 1: Tax and Government
    • Richard Murphy (Tax Justice Network)
    • Gordon Kerr (Cobden Partners)
    • Robin Smith (Systemic Fiscal Reform)
  • 1pm-1:30pm Lunch Break
  • 1:30pm-2:15pm: Session 2: Money and Society
    • Ben Dyson (Positive Money)
    • Dada Jii (Progressive Utilization)
    • Peter Challen (Global Justice Movement)
  • 2:15pm-4pm: Session 3: Land, Commons and Cooperative Economics
    • Derek Wall (Green Party, Goldsmiths)
    • Fred Harrison (Land Research Trust)
    • Cliff Mills (Mutuo)
  • 4pm-4:30pm: Close

The event is free and open to anyone to attend. If you would like to register to attend the event please fill in your details below – this will help us plan capacity. We can also keep you up-to-date with the programme.

Register for the event here.

 

5 Responses to “Occupy London Economics Working Group presents Beyond Capitalism? event”

  1. I wonder how you propose eco-friendly full-world economics and the reduction of poverty are going to go hand-in-hand. I wonder why there is complete ignorance of the current strand of economics, which shows that you are completely one-sided in your approach, and therefore, uninformed.

    I wonder why the state protects the banks which employ people, hold huge sums for pensions, and you complain. Yet you want the state to support the unemployed, the public sector (who face reductions in their pensions), probably the RMT and their greedy ‘as the bankers’ train driving members.

    You are so amorphous, so confused, so deluded and so unwilling to actually learn how the current system works that you persist in trying to develop a new system that has probably been tried before, and has probably failed before.

    Try JS Mills, look at the French communes, and why they didn’t work on a micro scale, let alone a macro scale. Find out how human ingenuity has beaten Malthusian concerns before, and why it may be able to do so again. Try and educate yourself like every self-respecting academic has to before they start giving their two pence. If Occupy went to uni, I’m quite comfortable in saying Occupy would fail based on how it does things currently. You are not the 99%, you are a bunch of self-indulgent wallies, who are loving the attention, but are seeing it slip away. The only time the publicly known members of camp are around, is when a camera might be on-site. Egotistical, self-important little plonkers. Most of you cannot articulate what you’re against, and none of you can provide an actual, feasible, realistic, viasble solution to any of the myriad of issues you whinge about.

    And I look forward to this not being posted because you’re also embarassing little cowards who cannot cope with any argument anti-occupy.

    Calling me a troll is a pathetic cop-out by a bunch of no-hopers who are going to change nothing. If anything, society might be galvanised by Occupy only to get rid of the dirty, smelly little shanty towns cropping up in their lives at the minute.

     
  2. I don’t believe it ! Occupy started off as “anti-capitalist” and is now sponsoring speakers who are openly in favour of capitalism. Robin Smith has declared his intention of standing as an independent Tory candidate at the next general election. Paul Dyson and Positive Money is supported by pro-Tea Party Tory MPs Steve Baker and Douglas Carswell. Fred Harrison is a follower of land reformer Henry George who he says “proposed qualitative changes that would have built equity and greater efficiency into the capitalist mode of production”.

     
  3. Who gave the tag ‘anti-capitalist’? Was it the media? Was it a General Assembly? I know nearly half the speakers and they have spent years campaigning for a fairer world and should be listed to. They understand the issues. I think ‘anti-capitalist’ is a media construct. Media needs short soundbites as most people won’t stay long enough to hear of reforms that are needed. Those with open minds will learn. Such a broad spectrum of reformers rarely comes together in the UK as they will tomorrow. Viva Occupy!
    http://www.the-free-lunch.blogspot.com.
    http://www.the-free-lunch.com

     
  4. I suggest that non-anti-capitalist reformers read this article by US radical cartoonist Ted Rall:
    http://www.rall.com/rallblog/2011/11/22/syndicated-column-revolution-versus-reform

     
  5. Well probably less than 40% of us are anticapitalist but at least 99% of us are anticorruption so that should be the big issue. We are supposed to be the 99% after all, no matter who started the movement.

    But enough of that. I was wondering if there was a link to video of the seminar. Or if not, whether there were any plans to distribute video of the seminar to the 99.999% of us who couldn’t make it to the event. If that’s no longer possible, how about a summary of the discussions? I’m sure I’m not the only person who would be interested.

     

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