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	<title>Comments on: An Occupier&#8217;s Perspective: Interview with George Barda, litigant-in-person</title>
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		<title>By: Bored of waiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bored of waiting</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The legal position I advanced was that the alleged harms accompanying the presence of the camp were negligible compared with the actual and potential benefits&quot;

- So the area around St Paul&#039;s suffers, while Occupy continue to get drunk and party (denying this would be very silly, the camp is littered with alcohol bottles and the air filled with pointless bongo playing, cack folk music), they disturb services (which they did on Wednesday at evensong after the Court case, perhaps not your smartest moment as that contravenes Article 9 of the Human Rights Act for the Cathedral&#039;s worshippers, and is irrefutable owing to the weight of media filming the sorry episode).
- There are still horrible amounts of litter, graffiti, filth, noise, abuse, violence between camp members, and so on.
- And what are these supposed benefits that outweigh this activity? You have not highlighted the greed of bankers, most people in this country were already aware of this, so don&#039;t try and claim responsibility for that one.
- You have not come up with any workable solutions to any of the so-called problems the camp decides to get behind. In fact most camp members can&#039;t even articulate what Occupy stands for. Although I have seen in the Occupy Times its now about the environment. It&#039;s lucky for you lot that I can&#039;t bear you people, because intellectually and academically, I could wipe the floor with any of you, any of your stupid sentiments, and stupid arguments. Unfortunately as I&#039;d get more sense and reason out of a particularly stupid chimp than I would out of any of you lot, I can&#039;t really be bothered.
- Even your outlined agenda is full of unmeasurable nonsense. I&#039;m fairly sure you couldn&#039;t even define the Occupy stance on sustainability, which means any attempt at achieving it is impossible because if you don&#039;t have a stance how can you fight for it? 
- Stop taking credit for things you haven&#039;t done. Politicians have been discussing exec pay for ages. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve heard of Vince Cable, he has been in the news a bit the last few years. Politicians talking about something isn&#039;t an achievement, George. You&#039;re naivity (or perhaps denial) is embarassing. New financial regulation. New legislation. That is achievement. All you&#039;re doing is witnessing the continuation of the status quo, except it&#039;s a bit dirtier than usual (most obviously where your tents are pitched).
- To be honest, I get so confused about what the point of Occupy is, it makes my head hurt. You talk about financial regulation, then the environment, then the Iraq veteran throws in a little whinge about his girlfriend as though the 99% should care (You&#039;re supposed to be fighting the banks, not producing a leftie version of Now magazine). You want the big banks to fail, which means whole portfolios of pensions would be lost, and yet you are in support of the public sector unions who want to protect their pensions, the ignorance of something so patently obvious is infuriating!
- You are so confused, so unaware of how things actually work, of how complex the world is.
- You think if we have financial regulation its going to help? Of course not; the banks would move elsewhere; there would be huge employment losses; and thus there would be less tax received by the government and more needing a safety net, so cuts in public services would be inevitable, and you lot will start bitching.....again.
- I could go on, but I have actual work to do as well. I would, however, ask that you use the City of London&#039;s Court Case as a guide to improving the conditions of your camp, and the behaviour of the campers. Its still a public nuisance. 
PS. While the City gave you a good hiding in Court, I do still hope Occupy are going to thank the City of London for their good work they do taking away your rubbish everyday for free, providing free health and safety advice, and providing continued use of the public water supply (that you enjoy for free) without which your camp couldn&#039;t survive.
PPS. Using devil sticks and painting lovely pictures of the masonic eye just makes you look like even bigger wallies. If you have to stay, sort your act out, stop procrastinating and focus a little. Maybe then you have a small glimmer of hope of doing something of value.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The legal position I advanced was that the alleged harms accompanying the presence of the camp were negligible compared with the actual and potential benefits&#8221;</p>
<p>- So the area around St Paul&#8217;s suffers, while Occupy continue to get drunk and party (denying this would be very silly, the camp is littered with alcohol bottles and the air filled with pointless bongo playing, cack folk music), they disturb services (which they did on Wednesday at evensong after the Court case, perhaps not your smartest moment as that contravenes Article 9 of the Human Rights Act for the Cathedral&#8217;s worshippers, and is irrefutable owing to the weight of media filming the sorry episode).<br />
- There are still horrible amounts of litter, graffiti, filth, noise, abuse, violence between camp members, and so on.<br />
- And what are these supposed benefits that outweigh this activity? You have not highlighted the greed of bankers, most people in this country were already aware of this, so don&#8217;t try and claim responsibility for that one.<br />
- You have not come up with any workable solutions to any of the so-called problems the camp decides to get behind. In fact most camp members can&#8217;t even articulate what Occupy stands for. Although I have seen in the Occupy Times its now about the environment. It&#8217;s lucky for you lot that I can&#8217;t bear you people, because intellectually and academically, I could wipe the floor with any of you, any of your stupid sentiments, and stupid arguments. Unfortunately as I&#8217;d get more sense and reason out of a particularly stupid chimp than I would out of any of you lot, I can&#8217;t really be bothered.<br />
- Even your outlined agenda is full of unmeasurable nonsense. I&#8217;m fairly sure you couldn&#8217;t even define the Occupy stance on sustainability, which means any attempt at achieving it is impossible because if you don&#8217;t have a stance how can you fight for it?<br />
- Stop taking credit for things you haven&#8217;t done. Politicians have been discussing exec pay for ages. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve heard of Vince Cable, he has been in the news a bit the last few years. Politicians talking about something isn&#8217;t an achievement, George. You&#8217;re naivity (or perhaps denial) is embarassing. New financial regulation. New legislation. That is achievement. All you&#8217;re doing is witnessing the continuation of the status quo, except it&#8217;s a bit dirtier than usual (most obviously where your tents are pitched).<br />
- To be honest, I get so confused about what the point of Occupy is, it makes my head hurt. You talk about financial regulation, then the environment, then the Iraq veteran throws in a little whinge about his girlfriend as though the 99% should care (You&#8217;re supposed to be fighting the banks, not producing a leftie version of Now magazine). You want the big banks to fail, which means whole portfolios of pensions would be lost, and yet you are in support of the public sector unions who want to protect their pensions, the ignorance of something so patently obvious is infuriating!<br />
- You are so confused, so unaware of how things actually work, of how complex the world is.<br />
- You think if we have financial regulation its going to help? Of course not; the banks would move elsewhere; there would be huge employment losses; and thus there would be less tax received by the government and more needing a safety net, so cuts in public services would be inevitable, and you lot will start bitching&#8230;..again.<br />
- I could go on, but I have actual work to do as well. I would, however, ask that you use the City of London&#8217;s Court Case as a guide to improving the conditions of your camp, and the behaviour of the campers. Its still a public nuisance.<br />
PS. While the City gave you a good hiding in Court, I do still hope Occupy are going to thank the City of London for their good work they do taking away your rubbish everyday for free, providing free health and safety advice, and providing continued use of the public water supply (that you enjoy for free) without which your camp couldn&#8217;t survive.<br />
PPS. Using devil sticks and painting lovely pictures of the masonic eye just makes you look like even bigger wallies. If you have to stay, sort your act out, stop procrastinating and focus a little. Maybe then you have a small glimmer of hope of doing something of value.</p>
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