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		<title>By: Promotor Fidei</title>
		<link>http://occupylondon.org.uk/archives/2556#comment-5748</link>
		<dc:creator>Promotor Fidei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hah! Evidently not!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah! Evidently not!</p>
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		<title>By: Promotor Fidei</title>
		<link>http://occupylondon.org.uk/archives/2556#comment-5747</link>
		<dc:creator>Promotor Fidei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I&#039;m banned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m banned.</p>
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		<title>By: Redscribe</title>
		<link>http://occupylondon.org.uk/archives/2556#comment-5746</link>
		<dc:creator>Redscribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 21:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Irrespective of the views of particular individuals who may work in the banking industry, the system that enriches them is at the root of the credit crisis and the whole economic catastrophe that ordinary people are now facing. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were an integral part of that. One very important fact is that enormous efforts were made by central banks in the early 2000s to prevent an ordinary cyclical capitalist recession from taking place. 

Why? The clue is to be found in the existence of a body called the &#039;Project for a New American Century&#039;, which sought to use the events of 9/11 to embark on a major program of war and conquest in the Middle East. This was not some fringe body, but a key component of the Bush administration, with fervent support for many of its aims from the most devoted servanst of Anglo-US capital on both sides of the pond, as well as in the US. It also linked the aims of British and US capital with those of Israel, which also for perhaps more local reasons wanted the US to destroy some of its enemies that it was too weak to deal with itself.

The economic bubbles that were allowed to inflate, which led to the current economic catastrophe, were allowed to happen to fulfil one simple imperative - that it is much easier to garner popular support, or at least acquisence, in an aggressive war programme if there is some semblance of prosperity at home, than if there is a recession and people are hurting economically. The recent wars and the credit crunch/crisis are linked and inseparable in real life, whatever some individual in the banking industry may think about it one way or another is hardly the point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irrespective of the views of particular individuals who may work in the banking industry, the system that enriches them is at the root of the credit crisis and the whole economic catastrophe that ordinary people are now facing. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were an integral part of that. One very important fact is that enormous efforts were made by central banks in the early 2000s to prevent an ordinary cyclical capitalist recession from taking place. </p>
<p>Why? The clue is to be found in the existence of a body called the &#8216;Project for a New American Century&#8217;, which sought to use the events of 9/11 to embark on a major program of war and conquest in the Middle East. This was not some fringe body, but a key component of the Bush administration, with fervent support for many of its aims from the most devoted servanst of Anglo-US capital on both sides of the pond, as well as in the US. It also linked the aims of British and US capital with those of Israel, which also for perhaps more local reasons wanted the US to destroy some of its enemies that it was too weak to deal with itself.</p>
<p>The economic bubbles that were allowed to inflate, which led to the current economic catastrophe, were allowed to happen to fulfil one simple imperative &#8211; that it is much easier to garner popular support, or at least acquisence, in an aggressive war programme if there is some semblance of prosperity at home, than if there is a recession and people are hurting economically. The recent wars and the credit crunch/crisis are linked and inseparable in real life, whatever some individual in the banking industry may think about it one way or another is hardly the point.</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
		<link>http://occupylondon.org.uk/archives/2556#comment-5745</link>
		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am the 1%. Yes, I was one of those evil hedge fund managers. Yup. Every day, I awoke at dawn, put on my evil outfit of heels and stockings, left my evil lair before my children awakened, and trounced over pensioners and school children to obtain my evil spot on the tube to get to my evil place of business. Once there, I cackled evilly all day whilst I made investment decisions which returned good, not great, but consistent, low-risk returns for my investors. I took long lunches, bolting down yoghurt pots while attending my daughter&#039;s dance recitals. I give my evil money to charitable organisations, but not as some kind of tax-evasion loophole. I would&#039;t know a loophole if one met me on the street and handed me a small vial which said &quot;Drink Me.&quot; I donate my evil time to a human rights organisation. And I vote for, and donate money to, politicians who promise to raise my taxes and bring peace. WHICH BRINGS ME TO THIS ARTICLE AND IS WHERE I GET TWEEKED!

Up until reading this entry about your walk for peace in Sunday, I have admired your cause, your efforts, your passion. I have ignored your stereotyping, painting all bankers with the same brush. I have forgiven your hypocrisy (where&#039;s your rhetoric against the 1% who are Facebook inventors, iPhone designers, footballers, entertainers, artists and Simon Cowell? Is their wealth less evil than mine? Did they work harder for it, make more sacrifices for it?) I will overlook this. But when you say, &quot;these wars are waged only in the interest of the 1% – a government cabinet of millionaires and their friends in the oil and arms companies,&quot; I&#039;m sorry, I have to object. You&#039;ve really gone too far.

You don&#039;t get to co-opt peace and pretend that it is embraced by all of the 99% and spit-upon by the 1%. You don&#039;t get to blame our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan on the 1% whilst implying that everyone in the 99% was dead-set against us joining the war. At least not without looking stupid. 

So carry on - your work is admirable. But please don&#039;t paint me as a war monger. When you stretch your rhetoric to the breaking point it merely weekend your argument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the 1%. Yes, I was one of those evil hedge fund managers. Yup. Every day, I awoke at dawn, put on my evil outfit of heels and stockings, left my evil lair before my children awakened, and trounced over pensioners and school children to obtain my evil spot on the tube to get to my evil place of business. Once there, I cackled evilly all day whilst I made investment decisions which returned good, not great, but consistent, low-risk returns for my investors. I took long lunches, bolting down yoghurt pots while attending my daughter&#8217;s dance recitals. I give my evil money to charitable organisations, but not as some kind of tax-evasion loophole. I would&#8217;t know a loophole if one met me on the street and handed me a small vial which said &#8220;Drink Me.&#8221; I donate my evil time to a human rights organisation. And I vote for, and donate money to, politicians who promise to raise my taxes and bring peace. WHICH BRINGS ME TO THIS ARTICLE AND IS WHERE I GET TWEEKED!</p>
<p>Up until reading this entry about your walk for peace in Sunday, I have admired your cause, your efforts, your passion. I have ignored your stereotyping, painting all bankers with the same brush. I have forgiven your hypocrisy (where&#8217;s your rhetoric against the 1% who are Facebook inventors, iPhone designers, footballers, entertainers, artists and Simon Cowell? Is their wealth less evil than mine? Did they work harder for it, make more sacrifices for it?) I will overlook this. But when you say, &#8220;these wars are waged only in the interest of the 1% – a government cabinet of millionaires and their friends in the oil and arms companies,&#8221; I&#8217;m sorry, I have to object. You&#8217;ve really gone too far.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t get to co-opt peace and pretend that it is embraced by all of the 99% and spit-upon by the 1%. You don&#8217;t get to blame our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan on the 1% whilst implying that everyone in the 99% was dead-set against us joining the war. At least not without looking stupid. </p>
<p>So carry on &#8211; your work is admirable. But please don&#8217;t paint me as a war monger. When you stretch your rhetoric to the breaking point it merely weekend your argument.</p>
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		<title>By: meewaan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is so much oppression in the West dressed up as Justice through the Courts. 

Just imagine if, at Chinese Riot Police request, a Chinese Judge issuing an Order, demanding  western journalists for BBC/Channel 4 etc to hand over the footages they have taken in Wukan village in China so the footages can be used to identify the protestors.  All of us will be outraged.

Yet,  Essex police has applied to the Court for a production order demanding  from BBC, ITN and Sky News, all footages taken during 2 days eviction at Dale Farm.

This is a truly oppressive use of the laws.. But if the dirty oppression is put through the machine of our Judiciary, suddenly,  they become something dressed in the cloak of democracy,  looking like a shinning example of the law and order.

However, Oppression is oppression, Judges wigs and fancy costumes may fool some of us some of the time, but not all of us all of the time.

Let&#039;s wait and find out if our Judges are the dogs of the State just like the Judges in those dictator states that have been toppled one by one. 

Bradley Manning is a history changing true hero.  The Judge at his trial is a puppet of the State. They may very well put the Judge&#039;s gown on a monkey.  Bradley Manning will always be remembered.  Nobody will remember the monkey at this trail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is so much oppression in the West dressed up as Justice through the Courts. </p>
<p>Just imagine if, at Chinese Riot Police request, a Chinese Judge issuing an Order, demanding  western journalists for BBC/Channel 4 etc to hand over the footages they have taken in Wukan village in China so the footages can be used to identify the protestors.  All of us will be outraged.</p>
<p>Yet,  Essex police has applied to the Court for a production order demanding  from BBC, ITN and Sky News, all footages taken during 2 days eviction at Dale Farm.</p>
<p>This is a truly oppressive use of the laws.. But if the dirty oppression is put through the machine of our Judiciary, suddenly,  they become something dressed in the cloak of democracy,  looking like a shinning example of the law and order.</p>
<p>However, Oppression is oppression, Judges wigs and fancy costumes may fool some of us some of the time, but not all of us all of the time.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s wait and find out if our Judges are the dogs of the State just like the Judges in those dictator states that have been toppled one by one. </p>
<p>Bradley Manning is a history changing true hero.  The Judge at his trial is a puppet of the State. They may very well put the Judge&#8217;s gown on a monkey.  Bradley Manning will always be remembered.  Nobody will remember the monkey at this trail.</p>
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