Comments on: Occupy London targets UK’s highest paid FTSE CEO

By: Da' Vane

Da' Vane — Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:10:35 +0000

Moderation does not mean getting rid of free speech. It is there to help with the spammers which were ruining the experience of this site.

The argument that not everyone is inherently good is moot, because it is a choice made by people. It is easy to prove how a building is at risk of fire if you go pouring petrol and set alight to it to prove your point. It renders your argument invalid. If the people who argue that people aren’t inherently good are people who have deliberately chosen to engage in selfish acts, their argument is moot and invalid.

We all have free will, and we all have a choice. I could easily spew a torrent of vile abuse and then claim that free speech is a failure because people can spew a torrent of vile abuse. It makes no difference. In fact, this is the success of free speech – people can spew a torrent of vile abuse, and if that is what people want to hear, then be sure to let people know – I am sure someone will satisfy your need easily enough.

However, until such time as people say they are happy and comfortable hearing such abuse, then the website, like the camps themselves, have a duty to respect all users, and moderate as necessary. There is nothing more hypocritical than demanding free speech and then complaining about a torrent of abuse because this is allowable under free speech. It’s not just free speech for you – but free speech for everybody. That’s what equality is about, and is probably the least understood aspect of equality in society today.

By: Jonni

Jonni — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:28:36 +0000

Hi Helen,

Do you think we have a problem with economic and social injustice in this country, or worldwide? Or are you happy with things as they are?

By: human of planet earth

human of planet earth — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:50:31 +0000

otherwise known as a peaceful protest i think !!

h.o.p.e. you dont have a problem with that as well !

By: human of planet earth

human of planet earth — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:15:28 +0000

Helen your such a teaser !

Be careful what you say wont you as ‘the powers that be’ whom you seem to adore, might have you arrested for inciting violence !!
not so long ago a no. of facebookers were convicted for very similar words of action !!
or maybe they wont in your case (as long as you ‘lobby’ them)
perhaps I should send them your comment and see what action they take……watch this space

By: human of planet earth

human of planet earth — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:55:12 +0000

otherwise known as that legal term ‘lobbying’ !!

give me policies to vote on please not politicians !!

By: human of planet earth

human of planet earth — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:48:49 +0000

I think you have to ask the ‘money men’ for the answers as they are the ones who decide who is worthless, in their infinite wisdom. The same wisdom I might add, as the wisdom that has brought this current financial mess to the fore. They have gorged themselves with us as their servants feeding them to the point where they are to fat and are now bumping in to other greedy fat money men to the point now where they are battling for control of what little there is left for them to continue gorging on !!

By: human of planet earth

human of planet earth — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:21:23 +0000

LG
dont miss the point of occupy please
raising awareness of who controls the economy, its not us the 99%, its not even our governments at the end of the day, bless their cotton socks for being deluded into thinking they do, IT IS those who have the money who have caused this ‘economic situation’.

how ‘occupy’ go about raising awareness is slightly irrelevant to the bigger picture.
If you dont like how they go about things then watch these please, bbc hardtalk episodes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00lmvyl/Hardtalk_25_11_2011/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01771pd/HARDtalk_Kyle_Bass_Founder_Hayman_Capital_Hedge_Fund/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b017snpq/HARDtalk_Mohamed_ElErian_Chief_Executive_Officer_PIMCO/

By: Paddy

Paddy — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 13:56:17 +0000

48% is less than half, and a hell of a lot less than 99%. But the 48% believe the site should be cleared asap, using force if neccesary. So not just cleared but using what force is required.
56% disagreed that the demonstrators should be allowed to stay as long as they want. So over half believe the camp sould go (all be it perhaps without force as per the 48% referred to).
Of course stats can be turned which ever way you want and are not infallable. However I do think the majority of Londoners think it is time for the camp to go.

By: Jane Armstrong

Jane Armstrong — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:42:25 +0000

great post and very wise.

By: Jane Armstrong

Jane Armstrong — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:39:13 +0000

what and be shot by armed police?

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2005/10/12/armedpolice372ready.jpg