Comments on: Occupy London Safer Space Policy

By: Tim

Tim — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:33:17 +0000

Yes, in theory. But when people are being highly disruptive there has to be a procedure to sanction them. ‘Freedom of expression’ is not ‘freedom to do and say whatever you want’, other people’s freedom to express themselves must also be taken into account. If ‘Occupy’ is to get anywhere as a global movement we will need (democratically/consensus agreed) policy, guidelines, procedures etc (PROCESS). Otherwise we’re just a bunch of people with lots of good ideas. We need co-ordination, collaboration, structure and organisation and unfortunately that’s not possible without ‘rules’. That said, our procedures must not follow the same misguided and hierarchical ways of old but must find a better way. In my view language like; ‘management’ and ‘rules’ should be replaced with the likes of ‘process’ ‘guidelines’ and ‘organisational structure’, for starters. Disagree? Look into the myriad internal problems GA’s and occupation’s around the world have suffered and give us your solution! ‘no process’ = ‘no progress’.

By: Technoshaman

Technoshaman — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:54:50 +0000

If “Occupy London is an alcohol and drugs free space,” then why we tolerate them?

By: Lucidaable

Lucidaable — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:58:18 +0000

That is sad Melissa. Proof that even members of Occupy aren’t by any means perfect, inclusive, without prejudice – just flawed human beings like all of us. Hopefully as this revolution evolves people will be learning from the experiences they have had and the people they have met during the occupations and take some time for self-reflection and recognise what it is that they need to change about themselves before they can change the world.

By: Lucidaable

Lucidaable — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:48:06 +0000

Trust in the positive energy of the group to deal appropriately with any negative energy that manifests. Respect is the key word.

By: Roy

Roy — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:43:47 +0000

If I had kids and they where in debt I wouldn’t encourage them to get into more debt to pay off the original debt. Its just lunacy can’t you see? We have to end the circle of debt.

By: Roy

Roy — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:35:22 +0000

Sarah most GAs are live streamed now. You obviously have internet access so if you do want to participate you’ll find the live stream at this address:

http://www.livestream.com/occupylsx

You can join in by loving into the chat room there.

TA TA!

By: David

David — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:30:29 +0000

Helen you seem to be providing most of the insults and accusations at the moment.

By: David

David — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:17:02 +0000

More defamation from Helen. There is a plethora of rational debate on here. Do you have anything sensible to say?

By: human of planet earth

human of planet earth — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:45:13 +0000

I have children Billy,
It is for them I want change, not for myself !
I have been there done that and now not likely to do much more, so what will I be leaving them with I ask ?

By: Interested by-stander

Interested by-stander — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:01:51 +0000

Thanks h.o.p.e. I’ve tried keeping within the relevant thread/chat, but there is often no Reply button to reply directly to a previous reply and therefore it’s not possible to answer a direct comment directly. Hey ho.

But I shall try and persevere, having become more and more convinced that the innocent by-stander who claims it’s nothing to with him or her is, by default, countenancing criminal activity.